The story has an update, which ironically was posted to Reddit but I couldn’t find the original thread…
>UPDATE
>In a comment on the original Reddit thread, the author notes that the professor and the school are working to resolve the issues with several students whose diplomas are on hold following the incident. One student has been exonerated, and it’s likely that more will be. Here is the update, via Reddit.
>In a meeting with the Prof, and several administrative officials we learned several key points.
>It was initially thought the entire class’s diplomas were on hold but it was actually a little over half of the class
>The diplomas are in “hold” status until an “investigation into each individual is completed”
>The school stated they weren’t barring anyone from graduating/ leaving school because the diplomas are in hold and not yet formally denied.
>I have spoken to several students so far and as of the writing of this comment, 1 student has been exonerated through the use of timestamps in google docs and while their diploma is not released yet it should be.
>Admin staff also stated that at least 2 students came forward and admitted to using chat gpt during the semester. This no doubt greatly complicates the situation for those who did not.
>In other news, the university is well aware of this reddit post, and I believe this is the reason the university has started actively trying to exonerate people. That said, thanks to all who offered feedback and great thanks to the media companies who reached out to them with questions, this no doubt, forced their hands.
>Allegedly several people have sent the professor threatening emails, and I have to be the first to say, that is not cool. I greatly thank people for the support but that is not what this is about.
>Also heard from professor that his job may or may not exist after today due to his foul language and unprofessional communications with students but not due to the AI accusations.
>Finally, the prof issued an apology to the 1 student exonerated so far and it appears the school is well aware they are not yet equipping to deal with AI in an academic setting, and this will be a HUGE learning day for not just A&M commerce but the system as a whole. My goal for today is to ensure all the other students receive exoneration if they so deserve.
If the students lied about their submissions, they deserve every F they get.
However, as a society we need to wake up, and keep up. ChatGPT isn’t going away. A progressive prof would be teaching prompt engineering – teach students to use ChatGPT to generate the best results.
Human writers also aren’t going away. We need new human generated content as training data for the AIs.
Is the professor claiming that AI wrote their entire test or what exactly is the issue here? I mean how is asking AI questions any different than doing a Google search in reality?
I view this as no different from a professor back in my college days flunking everyone because they used a typewriter rather than a quill pen to write their papers.
Or if you prefer classical examples: Socrates criticizing his student because he learned a speech from a scroll (see Plato’s dialogue called “Phaedrus”) …
… and you know what Athens did to Socrates, right?
If even the work you’re doing in college can be done by a robot, today’s students need to start asking some difficult questions about the role and value of education and the future of labor. 90% of all our jobs can be done by a robot, and probably better
I have already been using ChatGPT a lot for work. It is far from perfect, but it saves a lot of time on some of my routine but tedious writing tasks. I mostly use it to generate prompts, which I then use as a rough draft or template for my documents. I could only imagine how tempting it would have been to abuse such a tool as a student. Even just to generate ideas that one might not have considered or touched upon in the lit review would be tempting.
instructors are going to have a really hard time coming to terms with the fact that writing assignments now teach a useless skill and there is no way of testing for authenticity. the college essay is dead
>In Grading your last three assignments I have opened my own account for Chat GTP. I copy and paste your responses in this account and Chat GTP will tell me if the program generated the content. I put everyone’s last three assignments through two separate times and if they were both claimed by Chat GTP you received a 0.
Holy shit that is terrible methodology. ChatGPT doesn’t know if ChatGPT wrote something. It’s just filling in words that are statistically likely to follow so it’s just going to make up an answer. Professor might as well be flipping a coin. [OpenAI’s own AI text detection tool only has a success rate of 26%](https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/31/openai-releases-tool-to-detect-ai-generated-text-including-from-chatgpt/) and false negative rate of 9%.
A student proved that the AI confirmed being the author of his note to the class (which it wasn’t), which is enough for the Prof, to apologize, do the work, and grade those damn essays.
lemmiewinxs says
The professor… WAS A ROBOT!!!
ASK_IF_IM_PENGUIN says
The story has an update, which ironically was posted to Reddit but I couldn’t find the original thread…
>UPDATE
>In a comment on the original Reddit thread, the author notes that the professor and the school are working to resolve the issues with several students whose diplomas are on hold following the incident. One student has been exonerated, and it’s likely that more will be. Here is the update, via Reddit.
>In a meeting with the Prof, and several administrative officials we learned several key points.
>It was initially thought the entire class’s diplomas were on hold but it was actually a little over half of the class
>The diplomas are in “hold” status until an “investigation into each individual is completed”
>The school stated they weren’t barring anyone from graduating/ leaving school because the diplomas are in hold and not yet formally denied.
>I have spoken to several students so far and as of the writing of this comment, 1 student has been exonerated through the use of timestamps in google docs and while their diploma is not released yet it should be.
>Admin staff also stated that at least 2 students came forward and admitted to using chat gpt during the semester. This no doubt greatly complicates the situation for those who did not.
>In other news, the university is well aware of this reddit post, and I believe this is the reason the university has started actively trying to exonerate people. That said, thanks to all who offered feedback and great thanks to the media companies who reached out to them with questions, this no doubt, forced their hands.
>Allegedly several people have sent the professor threatening emails, and I have to be the first to say, that is not cool. I greatly thank people for the support but that is not what this is about.
>Also heard from professor that his job may or may not exist after today due to his foul language and unprofessional communications with students but not due to the AI accusations.
>Finally, the prof issued an apology to the 1 student exonerated so far and it appears the school is well aware they are not yet equipping to deal with AI in an academic setting, and this will be a HUGE learning day for not just A&M commerce but the system as a whole. My goal for today is to ensure all the other students receive exoneration if they so deserve.
sonic_tower says
If the students lied about their submissions, they deserve every F they get.
However, as a society we need to wake up, and keep up. ChatGPT isn’t going away. A progressive prof would be teaching prompt engineering – teach students to use ChatGPT to generate the best results.
Human writers also aren’t going away. We need new human generated content as training data for the AIs.
Dreamking0311 says
Is the professor claiming that AI wrote their entire test or what exactly is the issue here? I mean how is asking AI questions any different than doing a Google search in reality?
hazenhammel says
This professor needs to be fired immediately.
I view this as no different from a professor back in my college days flunking everyone because they used a typewriter rather than a quill pen to write their papers.
Or if you prefer classical examples: Socrates criticizing his student because he learned a speech from a scroll (see Plato’s dialogue called “Phaedrus”) …
… and you know what Athens did to Socrates, right?
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Omarkhayyamsnotes says
If even the work you’re doing in college can be done by a robot, today’s students need to start asking some difficult questions about the role and value of education and the future of labor. 90% of all our jobs can be done by a robot, and probably better
The_Mean_Dad says
I have already been using ChatGPT a lot for work. It is far from perfect, but it saves a lot of time on some of my routine but tedious writing tasks. I mostly use it to generate prompts, which I then use as a rough draft or template for my documents. I could only imagine how tempting it would have been to abuse such a tool as a student. Even just to generate ideas that one might not have considered or touched upon in the lit review would be tempting.
clichesaurus says
instructors are going to have a really hard time coming to terms with the fact that writing assignments now teach a useless skill and there is no way of testing for authenticity. the college essay is dead
Kraz31 says
>In Grading your last three assignments I have opened my own account for Chat GTP. I copy and paste your responses in this account and Chat GTP will tell me if the program generated the content. I put everyone’s last three assignments through two separate times and if they were both claimed by Chat GTP you received a 0.
Holy shit that is terrible methodology. ChatGPT doesn’t know if ChatGPT wrote something. It’s just filling in words that are statistically likely to follow so it’s just going to make up an answer. Professor might as well be flipping a coin. [OpenAI’s own AI text detection tool only has a success rate of 26%](https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/31/openai-releases-tool-to-detect-ai-generated-text-including-from-chatgpt/) and false negative rate of 9%.
ConscientiousObserv says
A student proved that the AI confirmed being the author of his note to the class (which it wasn’t), which is enough for the Prof, to apologize, do the work, and grade those damn essays.